FOUNDERS

About Bert
In 2003, I founded Palmer Construction Consultants, Inc., a firm specializing in structural engineering and construction inspections. However, by 2004, my addiction had worsened, leading to my divorce and a move to Cumming, Georgia. Over the next several years, my life unraveled. I was forced to sell my engineering firm in 2007, and relationships with friends and family became strained. Even though I knew I was headed down the wrong path and despite interventions from my loved ones, I resisted acknowledging my addiction or seeking help. I was desperately lost. Finally, in 2010, after hitting rock bottom, I entered a drug and alcohol treatment facility in Covington, Georgia. Over the next 2 ½ years, I endured the grueling process of withdrawal while working manual labor jobs during the day and attending AA meetings and recovery classes at night. Gradually, I began reconnecting with my family and learning how to live a life free from addiction. By 2013, I had completed the recovery program and served as an intern counselor, helping others on their journey to sobriety. This experience gave me newfound hope and a deep appreciation for the freedom offered by the 12 steps of AA. In 2015, I met the woman who would become my wife, and we married in 2016, later welcoming a baby boy into our lives. By then, I had returned to structural engineering and passed the necessary exams to obtain a Commercial General Contractor License in seven southeastern states. I expanded my licensure into other states while practicing structural engineering and serving as a qualifying agent for telecom companies. Although life appeared to be on an upward trajectory, I fell seriously ill in late 2016 with severe gastrointestinal issues. Over the next seven years, I endured multiple surgeries and lived with chronic pain and debilitating symptoms that disrupted nearly every aspect of my life. Despite these challenges, I continued working, incorporated a firm that provided structural engineering services in 2018, and supported my family. The financial pressure of being the primary breadwinner compounded my physical and emotional challenges, but I persevered, even on days when it felt impossible to carry on. By 2020, my health had deteriorated significantly. I had lost nearly 100 pounds and faced numerous life-threatening moments. I suffered from chronic bowel inflammation, colitis, and other gastrointestinal conditions, which left me with few foods I could tolerate and near-constant pain. Despite this, business was good, and I was able to meet my family’s financial needs because my faith kept me stable. During this time of despair, I realized I needed spiritual help once again. In 2020, I began a healing journey with Ewell Hardman, which profoundly changed my life. By July 2024, after years of prayer and perseverance, I experienced a miracle – my health had dramatically improved. I could eat a wider variety of foods, felt less pain, and began to reclaim the joy of living. Inspired by this transformation, I founded Palmer Real Estate Investment Group in 2024 to develop coastal properties and joined Red River Telecom as their primary qualifier, all while continuing to grow the private engineering practice. The immense gift of healing was overwhelming. My counselor and spiritual director, Ewell Hardman, and I worked to develop a method of psychotherapy and prayer. I guess you could say I am the first Healing Seeker to seek and find healing. that we knew others would benefit from. Therefore, we took our learnings into a test group and called ourselves Healing Seekers. Ewell and I co-founded a weekly group called Healing Seekers. What started with just one member has since grown, creating a supportive space for others on their own healing journeys. Today, I am profoundly grateful for the experiences that have shaped my life, the people who have supported me, and the spiritual healing that has given me a renewed sense of purpose. I co-founded this group because I know firsthand the power of faith, perseverance, and community in overcoming even the most insurmountable challenges. I honestly thought I was going to die or live in painful agony. Even though I believed in God, I had no faith whatsoever that I could be healed of my chronic illnesses. In 2023, Ewell introduced me to a faith I could not deny, and my spirit and mind began to soften. Pain became my friend because my pain was so intense that I had no choice but to change my mind and accept, in earnest, that inner healing could manifest in outer healing. Healing Seekers is a testament to the miracles that can happen when we seek spiritual guidance and surround ourselves with others committed to growth and healing.

Albert J. Palmer II (Bert)
Chief Operating Officer
Bachelor of Science in Civil Engineering, Georgia Institute of Technology, 1994
Licensed Commercial General Contractor in GA, FL, NC, SC, MS, AL, TN, AR and LA
Practicing Structural Engineer in Georgia
About Ewell
As I think about my childhood and growing up, I am grateful for how it appears to have been a time of preparation. My earliest memory was at 2 ½ years old of standing on the porch and welcoming the milkman while living in Decatur, Georgia. He brought me fresh ice from his truck as he hand-carried bottles of fresh milk to the house. It was wonderful. It was my first memory of the goodness of life. My family moved to the country in 1950 to Lithonia with dirt roads, well water, and country gardens. My first memory of angry feelings was at age 6 when playing with my father’s golf clubs and green walnuts, I swung and hit my younger brother between the eyes with a driver. I was angry that he reached down right at the time I swung. But since he was only about 3 ½ years old then, I know now that he just wanted to pick up the walnut. But the scar was a reminder of the event. My father died when I was eight from a heart condition. My mother never remarried. From that time she taught us spiritual stories, took us to church, insisted I take piano lessons, and developed a chicken business to support the family. I was baptized at 12 years of age and remember a pleasant childhood. I excelled in school, in track and cross-country racing in high school, and was senior class president. I remember feeling I had poor social skills with peers but had no trouble talking to the administration. After high school I started college but the Viet Nam War interrupted. I was dating my future wife, Nancey Kelley, and we married on January 1, 1969. I had joined the USAF in June of 1968 with a four-year commitment. Nancey joined me in Okinawa in 1970 for an amazing tour where our first child was born, the US Army Hospital of the Ryukyu Islands. I was an air traffic controller and after four years resisted the money to continue in the field. Once, we were invited to a friend’s wedding party and celebration, where I had some drinks. I remember my wife saying, “I don’t like you when you drink like that….” Those words stuck with me. I would be the last alcohol I would have. At about 22 years of age I made a commitment to abstinence that has carried me throughout the years out of a desire to feel respected by my wife. I returned to college and completed Georgia State University with a bachelor of science and entered next to Emory Candler School of Theology. I had several strong spiritual experiences that resulted in a desire to enter the pastorate. I was ordained in the United Methodist Church and spent 14 years in active church ministry. During this time, I visited jails in the community. One Saturday morning I met a young man who was arrested and in the bullpen, but I had no idea why he was there. When we spoke, I said, “The Sheriff tells me you’ll probably get five years. Did you know that?” “NO! I had no idea.” Were you drinking last night?” “Yes, but I don’t remember anything after we left the house.” I said, “Sadly, friend, you were in a blackout, and it sounds like you can’t even defend yourself.” That was a turning point when I realized that the suffering of alcoholism was such a powerful condition. Because I experienced many persons with addictions while in the church, I became interested in getting further knowledge and certifications. I joined the Georgia Addictions Counseling Association in 1987 and, a little over 6 months later, was asked to join the Metro Atlanta Recovery Residences, Inc. team, where I spent the next 19 years. I moved to Summit Counseling Center in Alpharetta, Ga., for 13 years. This was a positive experience. I started two organizations for recovery, Arise Counseling Services and Arise Recovery & Behavioral Health. We treated persons with addictions, mental health, and legal problems. In 2023, I began working with Bert Palmer. He was extremely ill. Over the next year and a half, he showed significant improvement. As a result, we set out to begin a program called Healing Seekers to replicate his success, primarily using spiritual means such as prayer and meditation. The new nonprofit company focuses on physical, mental, spiritual, and relational health. This begins a new chapter in my life, and now, at 76 years, I am as excited about the future as I have ever been. Glory to God in the Highest.
Rev. Ewell Hardman
Chief Executive Officer
Ordained United Methodist pastor, North Georgia Conference, retired status
Certified Addiction Counselor,(CACII)
Certified Clinical Supervisor (CCS)
Master Addiction Counselor(MAC) by NAADAC.
Member of Spiritual Directors International.


Karen Hebert, Ph.D. LMFT, LPC
Program Director
Ph.D. in Depth Psychology, Pacifica Graduate Institute, 2022
Master’s in Marriage and Family Therapy, Richmont Graduate University, 2012
Licensed in Georgia and New Mexico
Certified in several mind-body therapeutic modalities including yoga, EMDR, Brainspotting, and Biofield tuning.
About Karen
I was born and raised in Atlanta, Georgia. I am the fourth of five children and enjoyed being raised in large family where my siblings were my closest friends growing up. My parents were active members in a local Presbyterian church and supported efforts in the larger Atlanta community and in missions throughout the world. I learned early on, through being in a large family and my parent’s involvement in missions, that the world was not about me. I was given an early sense of purpose to be of service to those around me. My father died in a tragic hiking accident when I was three years old. His death triggered my mother’s alcoholism which grew worse over my childhood years. The confluence of these events sent me into a deep depression and initiated me into the underworld. Through my education and community at church, I found reprieve through the reading of books and being surrounded by the loving care of my church community. I struggled in my teenage years with anxiety and depression and began to self-medicate through drugs and alcohol. Despite my internal struggles, I was able to stay functional in school and sports, as both these things were major outlets for me. In college, at the same time as my spirituality was growing through the intellectual and relational aspects of my faith, my substance dependance was worsening. Again, my alcohol dependance was hidden from those I loved the most. I was able to graduate college and participate in a year-long internship in Washington, D.C., working at an interfaith non-profit. My drinking started leading to serious consequences that caused me to withdraw for several months to seek therapy and personal healing. I always knew I wanted to seek higher education, and as I considered graduate school, I felt drawn to ministry and counseling. After visiting a couple of friends in different seminaries, I realized I did not feel a call to ministry within the church. I wanted to help those who were suffering on an individual level. In 2010, I began a master’s program in counseling at Richmont Graduate University, a school that had a faith component as part of its program. My faith blossomed in my years studying to be a counselor as I had excellent teachers and therapists who helped me understand the spiritual and psychological components of myself. I began to navigate some family of origin issues. I was also introduced to the work of C.G. Jung, who would become one of my greatest teachers. His insight into the value of dreams, something I had experienced since I was a child, his ideas surrounding the unconscious, and his insistence on the uniqueness of each person’s path were guiding lights for me. For my internship in school, I was the family counselor at the women’s center of MARR. This experience brought me face to face with the unhealed parts of my story. Through the education I received, the gift of hitting a personal bottom in my drinking, and regular attendance at 12-step meetings, I became abstinent from drugs and alcohol in 2012 and began to heal from the family disease of alcoholism. Through this experience, what had been mostly a religious understanding of God turned to a spiritual understanding. I began exploring philosophies outside the Christian tradition and seeing how all faiths seemed to have a similar core. After graduate school, I was grateful to have my first job be to help open the first Amen Clinic in Atlanta. Dr. Amen teaches a comprehensive approach that addresses the whole person – psychological, social, biological, as well as spiritual. In my four years at the clinic, I was able to deepen my understanding of how psychiatric illness manifests in the brain. Practicing cutting-edge, holistic treatment that focused on healing the mind-body connection opened me up to new methodologies of healing. I pursued a local yoga teacher training to become a Register Yoga Teacher (RYT-200) and also became trained and certified in Eye Movement Desensitization and Reprocessing (EMDR) and Brainspotting, both mind-body modalities for trauma healing. After getting licensed as a marriage and family therapist and a licensed professional counselor, I founded Sweetwater Practice, LLC to begin offering individual therapy sessions for those seeking holistic solutions to healing from trauma. I pursued a Ph.D. in Depth Psychology at Pacifica Graduate Institute to deepen my knowledge on the unconscious and to be able to study the work of Sigmund Freud and C.G. Jung. I also joined a David Hawkins, MD book group and “A Course in Miracles” study group to deepen my understanding of the mind, body, and spirit connection. My prayer and meditation practices deepened as I sought guidance through authors like Leanne Payne, Charles Kraft, Paramahansa Yogananda, and Joe Dispenza. In 2024, my husband and I fulfilled a dream of his to return to New Mexico. My spiritual life has deepened as the pace of my life has slowed down, and I am able to live in closer communion with nature. I have maintained my private practice and see clients in Georgia over Zoom and have in-person clients in New Mexico. I joined Healing Seekers at the start of 2025 and act as program director. I am excited to see what healing and community may be built through this work.